Anyone have any expierence with this spotting scope good or bad? Id much perfer to put dollars into a quality rifle scope and buy something a little more affordable in the spotting scope area. Ive seen really good reviews on Yotube and mostly good reviews across the web. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also any recommendations for a different spotting scope with a Mil ret would greatly be appreciated as well.
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Oct 17For sale is a custom 7-300 win mag custom ELR rifle with Bartlein barrel and Mirage ULR chassis made by PMAC precision. Rifle comes as a package ready to go which includes a scope, custom load, confirmed DOPE to 2,550 yds, dies, bullets brass - everything you need to hit targets to 2,500 +. Avoid the 4-6 month wait for a custom builder. It has approximately 400 rounds down the tube. I took the ELR3000 course with this rifle and reliably hit targets to 2,551 (~2/5 were hits). I have a custom hand load as well as a load worked up by Copper Creek Cartridge that is sub 0.5 MOA and can be ordered direct from CCC if you are not a reloader. This is the load I used to hit out to 2,551 yds. Asking $5,995 for everything plus shipping (rifle alone is $6,700 + 6 month wait when new). I added everything up and it is well over $10,000 for everything included. Details on what is included in ELR package (happy to discuss any and all details by phone): Rifle: The rifle is a PMAC precision 7-300 win mag ( https://www.pmacprecision.com/rifle-packages ). It is essentially the same as Rex's and was built about the same time. I have heard that a rifle similarly configured has been used in field in limited circles. It has a 26 inch Bartlein heavy profile (MTU contour) barrel with a 1:8 inch twist. Action is a Stiller TAC 300 with 30 MOA scope rail. Trigger is a Jewell. Muzzle brake is an APA Gen II Fat Bastard. The chassis is a Mirage ULR chassis with an upgraded adjustable stock (the stock is awesome and has a lot of adjustment). Scope: IOR Recon 1 with 40 MM main tube. The scope tracks 100% on paper (see pics) and all the way out to 2,500 yds +. Has German Schott glass. It comes with a 40 MM American Rifle Co. 30 MOA M10 QD-L scope base ($300), a 40 MM bubble level ($34), Tenebreax cover for ocular ($38) and an objective sunshade. Reloading equipment: - Redding 7/300 win mag die set - 150 Nosler 300 win mag virgin cases - 120 RWS 300 win mag brass (virgin): this is arguably the very best 300 win mag brass and is very expensive ($41/20 and only available from one location). - 200 once fired Hornady cases from Copper Creek Cartridge loads - 150 195 gr Berger EOL bullets - 100 197 gr Sierra bullets - 100 Hornady 180 gr bullets Data/resources: - Custom Ballistic XLR ballistic data package with DOPE past 1 Mile (includes many tertiary ballistic data) - Confirmed DOPE to 2,500 https://i.imgur.com/Tg5wi2A.jpg
I hope you find someone who got to use one beyond 300 meters, but the instructor at a course I took was fairly impressed with what you get for the money. At 300m, it was fine.
John McQuay of 8541 Tactical did a piece on the 8-40x60 a few years back, but I can't find a follow-up on it.
Very few companies make spotting scopes with reticles in them any more, unless you want to pay big bucks, as I'm sure you know.
I got lucky and found a refurbished Vortex spotting scope and a mil reticle eyepiece at my local Cabelas Bargain Cave.
I agree. I’ve loooked at several not containing a reticle as well. I also came across a review with 8541 Tactical and haven’t seen a follow up either. There was another gentleman that has a channel on YouTube called Vaughn precision that did a review on it and was showing what some tress looked like out to 700. I was pretty impressed for the price. I do like the vortex but they have discontinued the reticle eyepiece. I’ll keep searching and try to make the best informed decision I can. Thanks for the response!
I've been a little scatter brained lately, but if I recall correctly, Vortex MAY be offering a mil reticle eyepiece in the not too distanct future. You might want to contact them and see if the rumor is true.
I've forgotten where I heard it, though, so don't be surprised if they say no.
If enough folks bug them about it, they may take the hint and start making them.
We had one at the first RX live fire. I was impressed with it. Granted it wasn't as good as the Valdada that was there, but for 450 bucks it is a damn good scope. Worked better than any other scope out there but that one. I bought one after that class, have been happy with it. Someday I will buy a Valdada but until then this will do me just fine.
I have the cheaper one. Its decent for a sub $500 spotter. It's a bit hard to fine tune the focus past 22 power in my experience, however even shooting at 1100 yds with it I can still make out the hits on my target at 20 power. A year ago, it was the only sub $1k spotter I could find with FFP milhash reticle, that may have changed recently. I am happy with it overall and would recommend to anyone who doesn't want to spend more than a grand .
And, if you happen to pay close attention to the After action Report 8541 Tactical did on the recent Guardian Long Range shoot, you'll see that he's still using the Bushnell.